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Prophecy, Politics, Trump, and Integrity - Jeremy Caris

Prophecy, Politics, Trump, and Integrity


I’ve had a number of people ask if i’ve seen anything concerning the presidential election. I have, but it’s complicated. And because of common misunderstandings about the prophetic, I was not planning to share anything about the elections publicly. But then I realized it’s actually a great opportunity to teach. So here you go… hopefully you will receive it for what it’s worth.

Prophesying about politics is a lot like prophesying dates, mates, and babies—it’s dangerous and it’s not a good idea most of the time, but not because it’s wrong. In all those cases, people are involved who have dominion over their lives and choices and they can change the direction and outcome, regardless of God’s will. That is exactly what Adam and Eve did in the the garden. If God intended for Adam and Eve to disobey His word, then He would have been guilty of sin Himself (1 John 3:8-9, James 1:13). Of course, God cannot sin since, essentially, sin is opposition to God Himself.

In other words, we have the power to make things go contrary to God’s will. God created us to have dominion in our lives and not everything we do is the will or foreknowledge of God. Of course, God knows what we will choose, but that doesn’t make our choices His will. Also, if our choices were automatically God’s will, then we would be elevating ourselves to the place of God in a passive-aggressive way. See what I mean? It’s complicated.

The bottom line is this… most of the time, prophesy is potential. In other words, most of what we see isn’t what God is sovereignly decreeing must come to pass. Rather, it is most often either saying, “this is the direction things are currently going,” or, “this is the direction things should be going.” And then there is the complication of timing. So, with that preface, here are some of the things I saw in the spirit several months ago.

But first, I want to qualify this with one more statement. I’ve been very deliberate about editing this to make sure it is not a reflection of my personal political views or my opinions of the candidates in any way—this is just what I saw.

First, I saw Trump standing behind the Republican nominee. I had the sense that he was appearing in support of the nominee, but it could have been metaphorically saying that he was “behind” him in the sense that he was just not the nominee. I know for me personally, what I see is typically more accurate than what I feel or sense. I also saw Rubio come under intense scrutiny, but I had the immediate sense that he would weather it out and come through fine. I saw Cruz, Trump, and Rubio as front-runners (this was months ago, when there were many running, including Carson, Bush, and others). Over seven years ago, I saw Hillary nominated as the Democrat candidate. Because of that, I was surprised when Obama took the nomination. So there’s a good example about the complication of understanding timing. I do personally believe that vision will be fulfilled during this campaign, making Clinton the Democrat nominee. But then again… God gives us so much dominion over our lives and even over all the earth (Psalm 115:16), so this could all change.

Now, let me follow that up with a couple more relevant thoughts. I am aware that there are prophecies about Trump being God’s trumpet or God’s Cyrus. But to be transparent, the headlines were as far as I had read until I decided to post this. It is clear that Trump already has been a trumpet shaking the nation. He has stirred things up, made people talk, and brought out a lot of passion on all sides of the table. And I believe it is sending a message to both parties about the fact that trying to play to the middle crowd is like being lukewarm. Be hot or cold, but don’t be lukewarm.

To be completely objective about the nature of the prophetic, that doesn’t mean Trump will or should become the next president. It also doesn’t mean he won’t be or shouldn’t be. What if it simply means what it says; nothing more and nothing less? Trump is an outsider (not an establishment politician) who will sound off loudly like an alarm or a trumpet, and he will shake things up and stir people up. He will strip kings of their armor and open doors and gates (Isa 45:1). This is already being fulfilled.

I also believe it’s raising the indication that a large percentage of people are tired of political correctness, tired of leaders who are controlled by money or a relatively small group with special interests, and tired of moderation in leadership. Regardless of who wins this campaign, one thing seems to be becoming clear. People want someone who is bold and courageous to stand up and not be afraid to grab the reigns as if they were born for it.

I am trying to convey a lesson that experience in prophetic ministry will teach you. We often have a tendency to take what we see or hear from God and carry it out to a logical conclusion that God didn’t actually show to us. It’s often because of our own hopes or fears that we do this; or it may sometimes come out of a desire to be special. But the bible tells us there is a way which seems right, even though it isn’t God (Proverbs 14:12; 16:25). This applies on so many levels.

Finally, the Lord has been speaking to me about teaching on the importance of integrity in the prophetic and especially in leadership. It is time to make it clear what God says versus what we may hope for. It’s time to stop allowing emotion to drive prophecy. It is time to stop prophesying at the point that we stop hearing, to be truthful and transparent about what we share.

Update after the election (09 Nov 2016): Last night, Donald Trump was elected as the 45th President of the United States. I thought it was a good opportunity to display integrity in prophetic ministry and review my original post in hindsight. I saw Hillary as the Democrat nominee, and that is the way that played out. But Trump ended up winning not only the Republican nomination, but also the presidency.

This is a good example of why journaling is so powerful. When you can go back and read exactly what the Lord showed you, you can develop your ability to interpret based on hindsight after things happen.

In this case, what I saw was that Trump was standing behind the Republican nominee. And, to be fair, I also said that what I see tends to be more accurate than what I feel. In hindsight, maybe it simply meant what I saw: he would “appear behind,” meaning he wouldn’t appear to be the one nominated as the Republican front-runner. And it didn’t appear that he would be; but he was. You can see how easily you can make erroneous assumptions based on what you actually see and hear.

At any rate, the lesson is that God gives us dominion over the choices we make as individuals, groups, and as nations. He doesn’t force us to do what He wants us to do. That’s why the specific results of circumstances involving people have often not yet been determined. The plans of God may be made known to us, but it usually requires our cooperation to see them fulfilled. Even Jesus worked to deliberately fulfill the things prophesied about Him; He didn’t leave it to chance.

Jesus did things specifically “to fulfill the Scripture.” Here are just a few examples:

Then I said, ‘Behold, I have come to do your will, O God, as it is written of me in the scroll of the book.’” Hebrews 10:7 (ESV)

After this, Jesus, knowing that all was now finished, said (to fulfill the Scripture), “I thirst.” 29 A jar full of sour wine stood there, so they put a sponge full of the sour wine on a hyssop branch and held it to his mouth. 30 When Jesus had received the sour wine, he said, “It is finished,” and he bowed his head and gave up his spirit. John 19:28-30 (ESV)

And leaving Nazareth he went and lived in Capernaum by the sea, in the territory of Zebulun and Naphtali, 14 so that what was spoken by the prophet Isaiah might be fulfilled: Matthew 4:13-14 (ESV)

Jeremy Caris

Jeremy Caris is the founder and president of Caris Ministries. Since he is called as a prophet and gifted as a teacher, much of his focus involves equipping believers to hear, know, and follow God in their own daily experience. He teaches the foundational truth of the Word with simple clarity, while revealing deep things of the spirit in practical ways. He has the unique ability to demystify the supernatural side of real relationship with a living God and make it an embraceable and accessible reality for all believers. Jeremy has been married to his best friend, Mandy Caris, for twenty years, and is the proud father of two boys.

3 Responses to "Prophecy, Politics, Trump, and Integrity"
  1. great update and teaching – Removing the veil from the prophetic. Makes the scripture
    Rev 19:10, “For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy” more alive and experiential.

  2. Good word Jeremy. There are to many so called prophets and the like that say
    “God said” , when what they really had was an impression or inspired thought.
    Steve Thompson used to say to people who quoted the above, or said
    God told me, oh, God appeared to you and spoke in an audible voice?
    It needs to be taught, what the differences are between a sense, and impression,
    A thought in our own head, a picture, a feeling or a scripture that just comes to
    Mind. Speaking in truth and integrity will clear the air of so much falsehood.

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